Wednesday, June 18, 2014

Rhetorical Appeals

Directions: Identify the following (you may have to do some research; make sure you cite correctly, and created a works cited page below all of your answers)

Part One: Read once and answer the questions before moving on to part two.

S - what is Swift writing about?
O - why is Swift writing this?
A - who is Swift writing this for?
P - is Swift trying to give information or persuade? What does he wish to persuade the audience of?

Part Two: Read again and answer the following questions:

How does Swift use ethos, logos and pathos to convince his audience? How does he use logical fallacies for the purposes of satire? Are there fallacies in his reasoning, given the time period in which he is writing? Is his tongue-in-cheek approach too extreme? Why or why not?

(Due before class on June 25th)

Reply to classmate: Ask a question about Part Two in order to get more information about where your classmate is coming from in his/her argument. Pick a classmate who has no replies under his/her response.

(Due by Friday, 5pm, June 27th)

Reply back for extra credit (5 points): answer the question your classmate asked.

(Due by Sunday, 5pm, June 29th)

10 comments:

  1. Part One:
    S- How to help the people of Ireland that are in poverty.
    O- The people of Ireland are under the rule of Great Brittan and some are starving, it is written to show them that they need to change the situation they are in.
    A- The people of Ireland.
    P- To persuade someone to do something about the situation in Ireland.

    Part Two: Swift offers up what could have been possible benefits for the people of Ireland from his satirical argument, “A Modest Proposal.” He uses most people’s automatic disgust at his satirical argument about selling babies to be eaten, to illustrate to the Irish what situation they are in. Swift uses exaggerations and straw-man (2), as well as sweeping generalizations (6), to attempt to show the situation in Ireland and a solution in his satirical argument. He also uses a few Post-Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc fallacies (5). The nations’ stock would not increase much because some, if not most, of the children were not actively being provided food or money by the nation. No, there is not much left for most of the people in Ireland.

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    1. What is Post-Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc fallacies? But what if they actual started to harvest children like cattle and give them steroids could they make a profit? What if Swift was being 100% serious and if he was would other countries like china that have population problems jump on the band wagon and use children as a cash crop?

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  2. Rhetorical Appeals
    1. The harvesting of children for consumption.
    2. The people of Ireland have no employment or money to care for their children.
    3. The starving and impoverished people of Ireland.
    4. I think it’s a little bit of both. To really consider his proposal because the fate of these children are inevitable.
    Part two: Swift use’s statistics to make it sound like her really know what going on in Ireland. He also uses emotion to make you feel sorry for the kids that are growing up in poverty because of their parent’s shortcomings. Then he makes you feel sorry for the parents who can’t get a break under the rule of Great Brittan. He also plays to the readers that have children whether they agree or disagree with this proposal. When Swift talk’s about “at the day of being sold for food at a year old, in the manner I prescribe, and thereby have avoided such a perpetual scene of misfortune” is an example of logical fallacies for satire. There are fallacies in his reasoning, yes! No not at all because he is using satire.

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  3. Part one:
    S- Jonathan Swift writes about his idea to lower the number of children of poor people in Ireland.
    O- I believe Swift wrote "A Modest Proposal" as a sarcastic idea to shock his fellow Irish people into actually coming up with a reasonable solution to help poor families with multiple children and better their overall society.
    A- It seemed to me that swift was writing to the population of Ireland.
    P- swift is trying to persuade the idea of eating the young children of poor and/or sick Irish parents.

    Part two:
    1. My opinion on how Swift uses ethos is with him being a doctor. I would think that his audience would consider that his title would make him somewhat credible.
    2. The way Swift uses pathos in his writing is through his straight-faced sincerity in his overall tone.
    3. As far as evidence goes, swift only mentions that he is reassured several times by his friends on various bits of information.

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    1. What wording or sentence led you to say that he used straight-faced sincerity?

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  4. S- He is writing about the issue in Ireland that there are a lot of children being born to poor family’, and what is idea is to solve this problem.

    O- He is writing to be funny and laud, and tell his audience that he has an idea for the problem at hand in Ireland.

    APeople who like satire, and the ladies of Ireland.

    P- He is trying to persuade, he is trying to persuade the reader that his idea is the next best thing and will solve lots of problems.

    II.
    Swift uses ethos when he gives the number 120,000 kids being born to poor people. (2) I think he used numbers to help his credibility. He used pathos through the whole paper by the subject matter. Also how he explains how much the baby should weigh at the time of sale and when he explains how to cook the baby the best. (3) Logos is used in his argument through spelling out the issues Ireland is having and that there needs to be something to fix the issue. He uses logical fallacies throughout the paper, for example when he says the children not exceed 14 years of age and how they are not ready to starve for want of work and service. (4) I do think his approach is pretty harsh, and very in-depth and detailed. He is just trying to help the situation in Ireland.

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    1. What are examples of the subject matter that uses pathos?

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  5. S-Swift is writing about how the number of poor children in Ireland can be lowered.
    O- He has a sarcastic approach to how this problem can be solved.
    A- His audience is probably other citizens of Ireland
    P- I think swift is trying to give information about how big of a problem it really is to have so many poor children being born. He does not want to eat babies.

    I think being a doctor in itself helps Swifts credibility. He also uses his knowledge of how many poor children there are in Ireland. In the first paragraph, he explains how unfortunate the children and mothers are that live in poverty. They are forced to beg for money, and the children grow up to continue being poor. (1) That contribute to emotional appeal because swift is trying to make the audience feel sorry for them. Not much evidence is used. His approach might have been extreme, but the use of satire makes it a little better. It seems like he truly did want to see the number of poor children decrease.

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    1. How did you come to the conclusion that Swift was trying to make the audience feel sorry for the poor?

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    2. In the second sentence Swift says, "These mothers instead of being able to work for their honest livelihood, are forced to employ all their time in strolling to beg sustenance for their helpless infants..." His tone and word choice makes it seem like he is trying to make his audience feel empathy like he does. Words like sustenance and hopeless shows that he not only knows about what goes on, he also understands.

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